I have been interested in presidential elections- since I was seven. I stayed up late that night- and every time since- the most memorable being in 2000. Finally around 4am they projected Dubya Bush as the winner- I was getting ready to get maybe two hours of sleep before going to work- when they pulled the pick back- so I was up all night. Of course it would be weeks before we knew that winner that time. My prediction is the challenger Joe BIden will defeat President Trump- with an electoral count of 283 to 255. It could end up being a wider margin- I think that is as close as it can be for the POTUS. I could end up being wrong. Key states to watch- Pennsylvania, Ohio, Florida, Georgia- if Donald John Trump loses any of those its over.
What do you think of his latest, saying no vote counted after midnight today will be counted?
The POTUS says a lot of things.
Seeds that he hopes to harvest later. Oh how I hope we’ve seen the last of this petty despot. He has also said he’s leaving the country if he loses. Scared of the tax man or the Epstein-Maxwell prosecutors and maybe both.
I sure hope you’re right Hans. I don’t think I can take four more years of President Pennywise.
I hope you’re right too. I went thru states & came up with Biden…270 to 268. Too close for comfort & likely to mean weeks of court cases. I think Biden will win PA, but not GA nor TX. He’ll prob get 5 million more votes than Trump…but Hillary found out about popular vote last time.
If Biden wins PA he will win it I believe. Trump needs PA- OH- FlA- NC-GA
Hans…how long do you think this will drag out?
I think it will depend on who wins the remaining states- if Biden sweeps the remaining 5-6 states i’d think its over. Of course I expect Trump to take the results to the courts. What a mess.
If the results I see so far are correct it looks like Trump is leading by a slight margin but… waiting for the votes to be counted. This is a bigger mess than 2000.
It looks like BIden will win Wisconsin by 20,000 votes… Trump will need to win in Georgia/ North Carolina/ Michigan and PA– can’t lose one of those.
although Canadian by birth, I watch it all from down here and say both of you are right…it’s going to take weeks and will play out in the courts and it is a worse debacle than 2000. My question is what a lot of non-americans ask: why does the American public put up with this Electoral College (“stuff”)? I know what it’s about, but how do they condone a system where the person with the most votes LOSES…twice this century already? A vote cast in Alaska or Montana should count for no more, nor any less than one in California or New York. Likewise, how’s it sensible to give all the state’s EC votes to the winning candidate whether they have 50.1 % or 99% of vote? President Obama should have tried to change it when he had control of the Senate, after seeing it happen in 2000.
It is in the constitution- a senate vote doesn’t change it-Congress may submit a proposed constitutional amendment to the states, if the proposed amendment language is approved by a two-thirds vote of both houses.
Congress must call a convention for proposing amendments upon application of the legislatures of two-thirds of the states (i.e., 34 of 50 states).
Amendments proposed by Congress or convention become valid only when ratified by the legislatures of, or conventions in, three-fourths of the states (i.e., 38 of 50 states… in other words it isn’t easy to accomplish.
Hans, you called it about PA being a pivotal state for Biden to win. I listened to some talk about the red mirage that would appear in the states where the absentee ballots can be counted only after the polls close (like in MI) and it would look like red was ahead, but more blue voted absentee, so the illusion has cleared and we have a winner. The harassment at the polling stations that are still counting by armed thugs in red hats is shameful.
Trump IMO can blame his loss on one thing- himself. If he could have kept his mouth shut and kept off of twitter he would have won. This wasn’t a Biden victory as much as a Trump loss. Anyone would have won- expect probably Hillary Rodham. It was an up/down vote on Trump.
Well-said. Too bad that “anyone” wouldn’t have been Bernie. Biden promised to let Bernie advise him, and I hope he remembers his promise.
You did very well on your prediction.